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Voting has been really weird the past few days.

The voting has been really weird the past few days. My images loose to some crappy images. Very few images reach past 600. This has been happening since three weeks or so. Challenge votes and biased voters seem to be the reason. Or should Pixoto tweek their algorithm to bring the best images to the top. I cannot possibly be here on Pixoto 24/7 so as to resubmit my images over and over again in hope that maybe I would get some fair voters. That might improve the scores. I sincerely hope and wish that voting would be fair and things improve here.
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    I agree. I noticed a distinct change at the beginning of June and as the weeks have gone by, it's still the same. It makes me wonder if some change was made to the algorithm at the end of May.
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    It really seems something in the voting system has changed - and definitely for the worst. First of all images don't get normal amounts of duels anymore in earlier pace and then very strange voting occurs. In many cases it seems that voting is totally random, bias and even unfair - far from picking the better image of two. This has been going on now for a while. Then there's still the matter of many big Community Contests being in the voting stage repeatedly at the same time and slowing things down. People are really getting unhappy with these turn of events.

    My suggestion is that the management really contemplated seriously the future of the Community Contests overall. Are they really necessary? What do they bring to Pixoto? You can clearly see a trend that serious photographers are dropping out one by one from even participating in them anymore (or voting for them) and some quit Pixoto altogether because multiple problems with the site. There are many treads on the Community page concerning these matters, but it seems that we members are left alone with our problems and nothing is done by the management to correct the situation.

    I would go so far as to say that these futile contests are destroying Pixoto's professional brand. Is that what Pixoto is aiming for? With all due respect, you really have to come up with a solution concerning both the voting algorithm, random/bias voting and futile, multiple Community Contest running simultaneously asap.

    Sincerely, Mia Ikonen
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    I think we need Jasenka to relay this message to Jason and others and have one of them answer it here. They have been participating in other threads recently, so why can't they address this issue? I understand Pixoto is very small company and they do not have enough Operations people (if any) to properly and timely address technical issues and customer concerns (with all due respect to Jasenka), but if Pixoto wants to grow anywhere business-wise, they need to figure out how to grow or at least retain their customer base. As it is right now people are dropping from this site like flies. The funny thing is that many remaining and long-time customers are advising Pixoto of solutions that should help not only retain their customer base and make daily/weekly/monthly contests way more interesting, but also help their revenue (example being dropping money prize for weekly contests). Yet management does not seem to care or listen to what serious photographers are saying or at least it seems that way since there is no 2-way communication here. And one would think that serious photographers is what Pixoto should be aiming and caring for. Otherwise why even bother?

    Jasenka, please send this off to Jason. Please have someone from development or management team (which seems to be the same team anyways) answer in this thread. Personally I would like to know

    1) What's going on with the voting lately, why is it slow and inconsistent and what is being done about it except useless weekly emails asking to vote.
    2) Since contests are the bottleneck, what's being done to solve this issue long-term?
    3) Why Pixoto does not want to drop weekly cash prize? Isn't it obvious that many people are submitting very similar images (yet not similar by Pixoto definition) just to get the money?

    Thank you!
    Dmitriy
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    And I agree with all above mentioned...

    I too have rarely voted lately, not even after the mentioned email, and the way things are going it is becoming even bothersome to submit any new photo's as they stall very quickly. So, what's the fun on Pixoto these days?
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  • Jasenka (Official Rep) July 07, 2015 18:38
    Hi all, thank you for feedback. I forwarded this topic to the management.
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  • I agree voting is really weird lately, seems like half the votes are done blindly!
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  • Pixoto lately is not fun anymore , for 3 duels ned 1 day
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    For about a week my submissions are struggling to get votes and the votes are erratic. I keep on resubmitting but that doesn't seem to help either. Anyone any idea?
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    Same whith my submissions John, its no more fun to see how good images get only 400 points because of the few miserable Duels.
    My idea John, is to go on holidays for a week or so and hope when i`m back it will be better! :-)
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    I will echo all of the comments from above, I just thought it was a temporary situation but it looks like the norm now. My stats have dropped drastically, it's hard to get any kind of score with no votes and quick pauses.
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    The fun has definitely left the building for me, with challenges being the main culprit. Some of us have had numerous suggestions on how to solve the voting trainwreck that accompanies these challenges, and nothing ever seems to be done, with the exception of receiving an email asking us to vote.

    Where it used to be a thrill to see my images score in the 700's, I now pray they make it into the 600's. Perhaps my photography has lessened in quality and that is why it is not as well received as it has been for the last three years. I like to think it's something else, and, for me, it all goes back to the endless challenges on which we have to vote. There are, of course, voting irregularities, the biased voting, the family members and friends voting, etc., but I don't see any clear way Pixoto can do anything about that. They can do something about the challenges, but they don't. And to be honest, for the first time in three and a half years on this site, the thrill is gone. And that's sad.
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  • I feel the same way John, I just want to give Pixoto a chance. My problem is I have gotten a lot of my photography friends involved with Pixoto and they are calling me to complain, just don't know what to tell them. Most of them will probably leave the site if this keeps up and that will really be sad. I used to get excited but now I have a hard time getting to the 500's and I don't think my photography has gone downhill that much in a short period of time. For what it's worth I really enjoy your photography, just wish I lived close to a Zoo like you do that I could get those fantastic shots.
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    I've voted these last few days and I am getting too many challenges to vote on, its annoying and frustrating. I am sure many are skipping or just clicking any in this case to get rid of the duel. We don't care who wins these things, most of them are repetitive, exclusive-ie limited to one country-or just silly.The only person gaining is the moderator who gets the free credits for setting up these things.
    We have suggested multiple times ways of dealing with these problems. Frankly I think now the only thing to do to keep Pixoto credible and stop you losing any more members is to remove the community challenges totally.
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    • Community challenges are not about photography anymore Ken. Just an easy way of getting lots of credits without having to vote. The simpler the standards the more submissions, hence more credits. That's why all these challenges "Any Black and White" "Any colour" Any Photo" "No limits".

      I've stopped voting and seeing my normal daily submissions don't get a lot of duels anymore I probably will stop submitting.

      Many photographers are feeling this way, so, unless Pixoto comes up with something, this site is slowly bleeding to death. We already can see it gasping for breath.
    • Can't Pixoto just stop with the "Challenges?" or only have one or two added a week?? they are quite sickeningly silly at times!
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    Jasenka, any response from the management on this? The whole July (and late June) is a mess in terms of voting.
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  • Jasenka (Official Rep) July 11, 2015 18:17
    Hi all, can someone please post some links to images that are getting weird duels so we can check?
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    I have to go back to July 7th to have a photo that has had more than 50 duels. Nothing since then has hit 50. It's not normal and it's not right.
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    Is it possible that nobody is actually voting anymore? The points are being either bought with money or attained through hosting challenges and the number of people actually physically voting by choosing one photo over another has dwindled to where the site doesn't work properly anymore.
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    It's a natural tendency for members not eager to vote if they lost confidence on the system. If the same kinds of images and just a handful of people just winning all the time. Having the same names popping up on the leaderboard must be discouraging to some members especially if the photos that always win are similar rehashed mediocre images.
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  • I’m frustrated and saddened!
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    I have seen the same issues--and am tired of the "Challenges" voting--as most of them seem pretty silly and repetitive, as stated before. Seems like an image gets voted on about 10 times--then it stops. Crazy! And frustrating. And I must say, all the old water lilies with drops and roses with drops are back--along with non-native women in ridiculous headdresses (which still offends me as a Native American!). So we haven't made much progress in a lot of ways! And now tonight, the images that have been submitted are not showing up on the leaderboard. Maybe we ALL need a vacation!!
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  • What happens if we simply don't vote on a challenge?? Will we be penalized--that has happened to me before when I "skipped" a vote or two!! I am going to try that and see what happens--going on strike against the challenges! lol
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    :-) Might help for you Karen but not the site, as the challenges have a set number of votes allocated to them with an end date. This means that someone else will have to do that vote, so the system will remain clogged.

    For example: (these challenges currently are running

    ANYTHING GOES
    Submission Deadline: 7/10/2015
    Winners Announced: 7/15/2015
    Images Entered: 1,461
    Votes Allocated: 10,227
    Votes Cast: 6,005

    10.227 votes are allocated here that need to finish before the 15th

    ANIMALS OF ALL KIND
    Submission Deadline: 7/9/2015
    Winners Announced: 7/16/2015
    Images Entered: 1,399
    Votes Allocated: 9,793
    Votes Cast: 5,464

    9793 Votes are needed here before the 16th

    These are only two examples of the dozens floating around devouring all the votes.

    Submission of mine of a week ago have got around 50 to 60 votes only whereas a year ago it would have passed 100 within 2 days.

    Also there is a "weirdness" in the pattern of voting at the moment. Images seem to stall after a max of about 10 to 20 votes when wins/losses balance out. 10 wins against 9 losses e.g.

    In the past, if it stayed that low, even after resubmitting, it meant you just had a so-so image. Basically it happens to about every picture now. A few months ago I still tried for the 700's but as Reno and John Larson have stated, it is now difficult to get out of the 400's, let alone the 500's.
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    It's getting really frustrating. Duels are taking forever and then even winning images are randomly stopping in the 500s and staying there for days, voting seems completely random much of the time, keep having to resubmit because of voters picking truly bad images, but doesn't make much difference because you're just starting over again & dealing with slow duels & bad votes again. Too many challenges that nobody cares about (these 'anything you got' challenges have got to go!!) and uncategorized is a completely pointless waste of everyone's time as well. I do love Pixoto, but it's getting a bit annoying now
    • Other than the pointless challenges, I also agree uncategorized is a waste of time, I came across horse, flowers, birds, sunrise/sunset etc, is that so difficult to submit to the correct category?
      IMHO this uncategorized category should not exist! it's drawing away the already slow votes.

      Novice category is also another "uncategorized" category which it's necessary.
    • I just came across this one:

      FREEDOM OF CHOICE
      Submission Deadline: 7/12/2015
      Winners Announced: 7/17/2015
      Images Entered: 2,058
      Votes Allocated: 24,696
      Votes Cast: 3,142

      Almost 25 000 votes needed for this one alone before the 17th.

      Come on Pixoto. I am not voting just to let a moderator gain credits.
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    The bottom line on this endless pit of challenges being allowed is that Pixoto COULD do something about it, which would make this site vibrant and fun again, if they just took some of the "doable" suggestions, proffered by many of us, who help support this site, and finally implemented them. Then the voting chaos for the daily, weekly, monthly and yearly contest would be FIXED immediately, and we could all go on enjoying this site as we used to. But Pixoto chooses to remain silent and do NOTHING, so we all stay stuck in this quagmire of absurdly low contest voting and scores now, and for the foreseeable future.

    They also know that of the 100,000 plus members on this site a very small percentage participate, or even read what's going on here in the Community forum. They also know that when those of us who don't want to settle for low scores on our work, will have to resubmit our images, which, of course, costs us credits. So the question is: is Pixoto all about money and the members be damned? There's nothing wrong with an online site being in business to make money, but when it completely overshadows the interests of it's members, it's time to pack your bags and go home.

    A few days ago, I won #1 for the day in Animals with a score of 672. In the past, that score would have barely made top 5%. Three days ago, I won three of the top ten awards for the day (#4, 7, and 9). The last two awards were in the low 600's! Absurd!

    We, as proactive members, need to stop bitching about challenges and voting and INSIST Pixoto do something about it! One member recently said he was going on vacation, indicating he was taking a break from the site, and that he hoped things would improve when he got back, yet he is still submitting images to the contest. And therein lies the crux of the problem and why Pixoto does nothing to solve it. They know they have us, those of us who like to compete, who like to see how our work stacks up against the best photographers on this site, who like having that feeling of accomplishment when we are rewarded with a top ten placement for the day or week or month. They know they have us when we posture on this board that we are taking a break or that we are quitting the site. They know that that very rarely actually happens. And those who do leave and have done well in the past, when we didn't have these multitude of obscure and childish challenges, eventually come back, because this site, despite all it's faults and inequities, is addictive!

    It's time Dr. Pixoto gave it's struggling and addictive patients a REAL prescription, something that will give us some hope about the future of this site, and that they will finally listen to what it's patients are saying.
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    • John, maybe, for you, it was only a joke, i was serious, i`m really desperatly trying to catch up whith you .......... *LOL*
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      Enough fooling around John, .......... i have to agree whith what you wrote John, since a few weeks i experienced the same as you and others, good images get peanut points because of the few miserable Duels and resubmiting does not help at all-

      I like John Phielix`s proposal:

      1) "limit the number of credits a moderator can earn to, let's say, 300 credits, they'll probably stop creating these contests because it is of no use to them anymore".
      (I would go further and limit all credits for moderators to 100 no matter how many entries they have)

      2.) "limit the number of challenges one moderator can create to, for instance, one a week".
      (... or 3 per month)

      I would also limit the number of entries per user between 5 and 8 images!
      Daily competition images should have high priority so that all Daily competition duels have the needed reserved portion of vote-duels.
      And if sometimes challenges dont have enouph duels, its no problem,their deadline can be expired!
    • Thanks Renos, for your support. And by the way, I did believe you were on holiday. :-) !!!!

      I also read no ill words in John Larson's comment's besides a bit of sarcasm.

      You two are great photographers in the animal category. Please compete with each other on quality.

      My problem is, and should be yours, myriads of contests taking away fair votes.
      Repetitive submissions of same type trying to get week/month prize

      The problem can be easily fixed without getting into too much detail. Limit contests to one a week per moderator. Get rid of cash prizes. 20 Dollars as bonus might be not much for me but it is a lot in lots of Asian/African countries. More enough to cheat day by day. Should Pixoto make the cash-prize 1000 dollars a week/month, I bet even all our Westerners would start cheating.

      Make it an even playing field. Get rid of the cash prizes. Give credits or a Pro account instead as bonus.
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    Well, it's been enough for me. I am taking Pixoto vacation until September. If things are not back to normal then, I will be gone entirely. I hope people do the same, because as John said only action, not words here, will hopefully make Pixoto management react. Good luck everyone and hopefully things will improve for the better soon!
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    Seems to me that everyone here has pretty well outlined the problem, and offered viable solutions. It's increasingly frustrating, particularly when the only response is the stock, "I'll forward it to management.", or "Send me an example.". I'm not blaming Jasenka for this...only pointing out that someone who can actually help with the problem needs to step up.
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    I don't know what's going on around here -- if it's the contests, a change in the algorithm, both, neither, who knows..... -- but I noticed the change at the end of May/beginning of June and it just hasn't been the same since. I have burned through thousands and thousands of credits over the past few weeks on constantly resubmitting images. Now, I have a huge number of credits so I don't care, but it's a sudden change -- and in the past my credit total would keep going up even with having to resubmit images, because my voting would earn me more credits than I was using and I didn't resubmit constantly as I didn't need to. Now, I have to resubmit so many times that I'm down about 3,000 credits from the end of May to now ... and I do still vote too.
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    I guess something is being done to fix all the problems and there is certainly a problem but an update from the upper management would put a rest to all the insecurities, queries and unrest.
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    slow is not the keyword can even boost an image to 200 times and it take days to get 20 votes
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  • Hey All - I appreciate the feedback and recognize that there has been a recurrent problem over the past couple weeks with low duel counts on daily awards. We've been meeting frequently about this and believe that have a plan to attack this problem starting today.

    In the past these problems have been rare and easily correctable. Lately however a number of factors have made them more severe and harder to deal with. Unfortunately, it is not as simple as "too many crap challenges" - the problem is more a factor of the timing of the good challenges combined with seasonal changes in participation rates.

    That said we do recognize that we probably need to take a more active role in moderating the types of challenges that are being created on Pixoto and are taking steps to do that.

    I hope this helps.
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  • Sorry Jason, to me "I hope this helps" doesn't mean a thing. To me you sound like a banker explaining why the business didn't perform well and grants himself another bonus.

    "Timing of good challenges combined with seasonal changes in participation rates" ????????

    Pull the other one.
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    Jason,

    First of all, thanks for response! However, when you say A, you need to say B. In other words, when you say you have a plan, we would like to know what this plan is. I am sure you can outline it briefly without going into many details. At least when we know what the plan is (and what is the deadline for implementing it), we can look forward to something. Can you please provide high level description of how you guys are going to attack the problem? All of us would really appreciate it.

    Thanks!
    • It's a multi-tiered strategy but it all hinges on the time differences between contest submissions vs contest voting (this is what causes the changes)

      Now:
      - Launch a new major contest today (this will give votes to current images)
      - Launch monthly awards (increases traffic and voting)

      Short term
      - time pixoto sponsored contests to launch when other contests are in voting (creating a more neutral field)
      - monitor contest voting and time contest launch and vote emails to smooth out lulls

      Medium term
      - change vote allocation for challenges so that they are a net positive for category voting (i.e. 20 credits to enter only 15 assigned to contest)
      - limit contest voting as a percentage of category voting (move from 50% to 25%) 

      The issue of the quality of contests is (IMHO) completely different than the duel allocation issue.  People tend to complain about contests only when categories are not getting enough votes.  So we will tackle the quality of contests issue separately.  I'm eliciting feedback from my team about the best way to handle this and am open to any suggestions that you have.
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    To be honest, Jason, we've heard this story before: how you plan " to attack this problem starting today," and then we get emails asking us to vote or telling us you've reduced the number of challenges one can have going at the same time to three per person. That is not a fix. That's a band-aid over a triple bipass incision.

    This challenge fiasco needs to either come to a complete end, except those moderated by Pixoto or those promoted challenges that actually pay for the right to enter, and who get no credits for doing so, or...limit the community challenges to one person per month with a limit of 100 credits given to winners and moderators, as long as there are a minimum of 100 entries.

    As a financially minded individual, it makes no sense to me that you actually believe you are making money on these community challenges. You have to give out credits to the top three winners as well as the mods, and if you do a close inspection of who actually enters these challenges, most have piled up huge stores of credits through moderating multiple times in the past, with your blessing. The end result is not only do you not make money on community challenges, but you have destroyed the contest aspect of this site and robbed it of the voting it used to enjoy on a daily basis.
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    • Ad - it's actually not that simple.  Each contest entry costs 15 credits.  Which means 15 votes were needed to enter that image.  Each contest is allocated 13 votes + 2 award credits for each image for a total of 15.  So a vote on a challenge does not pull ANY votes away from category voting on average.  The issue, as I see it, is that the votes do not happen at the same time thus causing timing differences.  Sometimes we'll get 110 votes to daily winners, sometimes we'll get 50, when the average should really be 80.  Our challenge is to smooth that out. I hope this makes sense.
    • Sorry, despite the mathematical correctness of your statement I think you're wrong. As you say "Each contest is allocated 13 votes + 2 award credits for each image for a total of 15." ... this means 15 votes not going to regular voting. As can be seen by all reactions regulare voting receives less votes.
      Look at it from this simple perspective: if a member votes about 100 times a day without participating in a contest 50% or more of his votes are lost because of the contests... causing the regular process receiving less votes overall and that's where a lot of members express their complaints...
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    Jason, there is no need for your staff to have to waste time moderating community challenges, the answer is simple, stop them altogether.
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    • For community challenges - I believe that if people are submitting to them, then they are valauble to those members.  Thus I believe that the contests that provide the most interest to people are the ones that get the most submissions and thus end up getting the most votes.  Contests that people are not interested in will not get images and therefor won't get votes either.  I would really rather not subject my opinion of what is important and what is not on to our members.
    • If contests are meaningless then it's just participation in terms of quantity. As said, please turn it around. Putting lots of low quality image in a contests means they're shown in duels and do receive votes. So quantity gives at least some exposure. Also Saying that contests/images won't get votes if people are not interested in those sounds ridiculous since most duels in those meaningless challenges are duels are still presented to all voters... The whole mechanism of voting almoast enforces every one also to vote for those contests. Especially since there are lots of them.
      Finally also turn your last remark around. You state " I would really rather not subject my opinion of what is important and what is not on to our members.". If your members are so important for Pixoto, why do we have this this whole discussion... It's a topic raised by dissatisfied members... don't view them as part of the problem.
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  • Wow Jason. All of your responses. May I say I hardly comprehend any? You are biting at individual members. (Including me). Not very professional don't you think?

    Just address the bloody problem.
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    Jason, the challenges occupy too high a percentage of the duels. My opinion, anyway. If you can separate the duels into two systems then those who want to ignore the challenges can without having to keep skipping them, and those who love them will still have them and only them. Under this new system I am proposing, I would suggest that we get to choose which we want as our default when we click on Vote but, of course, we should always be able to vote on both, if we wish. You could even allocate the points earned differently -- encourage people to vote in the daily competitions by having those duels worth 1.5 or even 2 credits instead of just 1. This would emphasize the importance of the daily competitions.

    If that's not possible, then please slow down the appearance of the challenges in the voting. Slow it way down.

    Here's the thing.......challenges can go on and on and on and it doesn't matter a whole heckuva lot. BUT the daily competitions are just that ..... daily. There is a finite time we can duel for Best of the Day. It's limited!!

    (For the week of July 5th, do you know how many photos I have uploaded? Six. Only six! For the entire week. That used to be my number per day, or even more than that per day. Why just six for the whole week? Oh, I have been uploading. But because every day my photos got a piddly number of duels, they didn't get a change for the Best of the Day awards, so I just resubmitted them....only to see it happen the next day. And the next day. I don't mind getting paused and having my images tank, but I hate seeing an image up for a good 24 hours or more and getting less than a duel per hour.)

    So please ....either separate the duels into two different systems OR drastically limit the challenge duels and speed up the competition duels.

    (Daily competition duels could also be upped if you would please get rid of Uncategorized!)
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    You sound like a politician, Jason. A bunch of mumbo jumbo answers that you turn into questions just to confuse the issue.

    Let me try to put it in a way you will understand. I use the term "challenges" to signify community challenges or what you are calling contests. If you are calling them contests, what exactly are the daily and weekly and monthly contests called?

    In very simple terms, community challenges/contests clog up voting for daily category contests because you won't put a limit on them or do away with them altogether. Your answer to Terry is unbelievably naive. The reason you get thousands of community challenge submissions each day is because they are all hoping to land in the top three and get credits so they don't have to vote on category contests or worse yet, buy credits, or they resort to moderating so they can ger a pile of credits...for free. It has nothing to do with popularity over the daily challenge contest.

    What it boils down to, and listen closely, is that the community challenges/contests take votes away from the categories daily contest, which is why we see such low scores winning or in the top ten and why you have so many complaints about it on this community forum. Some very good and valuable suggestions have been given to resolve this problem, which apparently you feel free to ignore. I would suggest if you don't want member's suggestions or advice, you tell us so up front and we won't bother anymore. It's your site, not ours...and you're the only one who stands to lose big here if you follow the path on which you find yourself firmly implanted.
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    • Jason, John, just butting in here to say this: Jason, have you taken a close look at the community challenges? There are a select group of members who flood every contest they can. So, yes, challenges seem popular, but it's not as simple as saying, look at all the challenges and look at how many entries they have so wow, are they ever popular and a good thing. They're a very, very good thing for some members, sure. Some, but not all.

      Common sense tells me that moderators create the "anything goes" challenges so they can accumulate credits so they can spend less time voting and common sense tells me that people flood the challenges with entries so they can earn back the credits used to enter and rack up some easy awards. Yes, easy awards. When people look at our profiles they see an award total and it's grand when that number is high -- but it's not known to the visitor if those awards were earned the hard, honourable way -- in the daily, weekly etc competitions -- or earned by flooding a "my favourite photo" challenge over and over and over again.

      Jason, I hope you realize what a really, REALLY good thing you've got going right here, right now, right in this very topic. You've got members who are showing a strong interest in the site and its success, members who are willing to take the time to enter into a dialogue with you about this. Members without apathy. Members who CARE about all of this. It's a rare thing.
    • Community Challenges are 95% crap. I honestly have severely reduced my participation on this site over the last 2 months and much of that is due to the abuse of the Community Challenges by moderators whose sole purpose is to earn as many credits as they can so they flood other community challenges with the same photos over and over. Just take a look at the history of those who moderate and watch what they do with all those credits they receive.
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  • I am going to put this in simple numbers from the voting perspective.
    Let's say I click on VOTE button and about to vote on 5 duels. Out of those 5 duels, I would like to see at least 4 duels being for daily/weekly/monthly contests (photos that are in categories or subcategories) and maybe just 1 duel on a community challenge. However, what happens now is the reverse situation - only 1 out of 5 would be on daily contests and the rest would be on useless challenges. From the plan that was outlined above I am not sure how this situation would change unless something is being done to neuter the amount of challenges and their entries.
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  • Make of this what you will, but I just voted for more than 150 duels and the percentage of challenges in those duels was low ... definitely at an acceptable level. I don't know if this is just dumb luck and I am jinxing myself by posting this, or if some change was made. I just know that it wasn't a frustrating experience :-)
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  • Gee, I try to win challenges and not put in many photos, so I don't have to vote much, lol. Actually, becoming true.
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